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All Scimitars, Sabers, Kopesh and Katana Are Now Illegal!

Back in January of 2007, a couple of detectives in England were in over their heads.

They came across a gang of five guys who were breaking in to a house. The detectives identified themselves as police officers, and attempted to take the criminals into custody. But the perps figured out that the cops were unarmed, and the fight was on!

Two unarmed detectives against five guys who had chains and hammers. Things looked grim, particularly when one of the gang became curious as to what the cops had eaten for breakfast and produced a knife to help him find out.

But then help arrived in the form of a nondescript private citizen wielding a cheap samurai sword. "Leave him alone, he's a police officer!" he yelled, and charged the gang single-handedly. He fought bravely, if not particularly well, and managed to inflict a minor wound on one of the burglars. Criminals being a cowardly and superstitious lot, the gang broke and ran. The detectives managed to tackle and bag one criminal each, but by the time they had subdued their respective catches the good Samaritan had slipped away.

That guy had balls as big as churchbells, and I don't just mean that because he went toe-to-toe with a swarm of ne'er-do-wells. While self defense is not illegal in England, or at least it isn't technically illegal, it is against the law to use anything designed as a weapon to defend yourself. Local Detective Inspector Peter Bent stated "It needs to be said we cannot condone vigilantism or people running around with swords or weapons. It will be up to the Crown Prosecution Service whether they see his actions as justified or going beyond reasonable force."

He could charge straight at a gang of armed desperados without a moments hesitation, but the guy with the sword could see no other option than running and hiding after the dust settled and the cops were back on their feet. I don't blame him one bit.

The police launched a manhunt to see if they could smoke him out, and I have no idea if they ever managed to find out who had drawn steel to defend their lives on that day. Something tells me that the cops on the street, when told that they had to find an average Joe who had saved two of their own just so he could face the courts, merely went through the motions and really didn't put too much effort into the search.

I'm telling you this because I was over at Milo's, and he says that unregistered samurai swords are now illegal in England. You have to jump through a bunch of hoops to prove to the state that you have a "legitimate reason" to own one.

Many American gunbloggers have noted that the media and other pro-gun control types become hysterical when discussing firearms. They like to infer that owning a gun is similar to petting a coiled cobra, as both will leap up and kill without warning when you least expect it.

I leave you with this English news article which proves that the British are going through the same thing with knives. Notice how the focus of a newspaper is "preventing youngsters from getting involved in knife culture" by sponsoring a weapon amnesty program. People could turn in their infernal devices to the police without fear of arrest, and someone actually gave them a cheap samurai sword that was sharp!

Judging by the extreme fear they show when confronted by a wall hanger with an edge, the police over there are having trouble recruiting anyone which doesn't swoon when confronted with the very idea of a sharp piece of steel.

Inspector Peter Knights, of Hartlepool Police, said: "I am delighted to see a weapon of this nature has been surrendered. All too often we see items such as this used and abused by people which leads invariably to serious injury or death."

Guys, I couldn't make this stuff up if I tried.

(Cross posted at The Chicago Boyz.)

Comments (5)

milo:

Bizarre, isn't it? The law is a bit vague and the chaps I know who have been writing to government officials tend to get fobbed off with vague standard answers. The best we can work out is that it is legal to own swords that one already has but not legal to buy or sell them. Having insurance (e.g. martial arts) is a “defence” should one be prosecuted for buying or selling.
Of course, the carrying of any sword with the intent to use it as a weapon was illegal anyway.

Wade:

The really funny thing is that, when you go to the linked story, Google ads pops up an ad for a "Martial Arts Supply Store" where (in the US) you can buy any kind of pointy ninja paraphernalia you want.

Articles like this make me wonder how much the English populace buys into the anti-weapons hysteria. Is it just credulous, easily-excitable journalists who have the insane, irrational fear of pointy objects or does a large portion of the population?

milo:

In my experience the there is quite a bit of hoplophobia amongst the general population in relation to guns. I have lost track of the number of times I have had this exchange with friends and colleagues:

Them: Of course guns should be banned! They are dangerous and anyone who wants one is very suspicious.
Me: Not only do I want guns but I already own one*. Do you think that I'm a suspicious character?
Them: Um... Well, not you, of course. I know that you have a gun for legitimate reasons and are sensible but I can't say the same for everyone else.

...and so on.
Swords are a bit odd in that most people aren't scared by them as they understand them to be obsolete weapons that are unlikely to be encountered in the hands of a criminal, although the press have successfully whipped up some anti-katana hysteria and one could find people who would support laws against them.

Compare this report from the NRA's Armed Citizen Page:

"The Post, Houston, TX, 1/22/94
State: TX
American Rifleman Issue: 4/1/1994
In the finest tradition of armed citizens who take on crime in their communities, Texan Travis Neel helped save a wounded Harris County deputy sheriff's life. Witnessing the shooting by one of a trio of Houston gang members after a traffic stop just west of Houston, Neel--who was on his way to his pistol range--pulled his gun and fired, driving the officer's assailants away. An off-duty sheriff's deputy also came on the scene and joined Neel in covering the deputy, whose life was saved by his body armor. The trio was captured after a manhunt."

Texas didn't begin issuing Concealed Handgun Licenses until 1995, so naturally the police reported, with a wink and a nod, that Mr. Neel was on his way to a pistol range and therefore exempt from the law that made it a Class A misdemeanor to carry a handgun.

Garys:

"Local Detective Inspector Peter Bent stated 'It needs to be said we cannot condone vigilantism or people running around with swords or weapons. It will be up to the Crown Prosecution Service whether they see his actions as justified or going beyond reasonable force.'"

Apparently Inspector Bent would much rather have two dead detectives than have a subject of the Crown save them. No wonder those who can are abandoning Britain at ever increasing rates.

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